All right. So I'm sitting here with Neil Ford.

Neil, why don't you just start by introducing yourself?

Okay. I'm Neil Ford. I am a director at ThoughtWorks. I've been here about 10 years. I'm also a software architect.

Most of my consulting work now is in the intersection of continuous delivery and architecture.

And I also have as part of my title, Meme Rangler, which is an unusual title in the tradition

of ThoughtWorks' unusual titles.

Meme is the Richard Dawkins term for viral unit of thoughts.

So a meme wrangler is someone who spreads thoughts around.

So that's part of my job at ThoughtWorks as well.

So what is the thought you would like to spread today?

Well, it's really the kind of observation.

There's really a lot of interest in the microservice style architecture out in the world right now.

It's really kind of the realization of why that's so popular, and I think it's because it's really the first post DevOps revolution architecture.

It's the first architectural style that really fully embraces all these lessons we learn from

DevOps and the continuous delivery.

I think all architecture going forward have to take those things to account because

traditionally the thing that's been

tricky about architecture it's hard to change later in fact that's one of the common kind of

colloquial definitions out in the world for software architectures the parts that are hard to change later

but if you look at someone like netflix or amazon they've actually built changeability into

their architecture,

making change relatively easy in those worlds. So I think that by embracing those kind of operational

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