Hi and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best songwriters come to talk shop. I'm your host Joe Pug each episode here we host a distinguished guest and we ask them to go deep on their

inspiration, on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So whether you're a grizzled veteran, shilling for a guitar string

company that just moved its operations to a country without labor laws, or else a scrappy

upstart, shilling for a social media company owned by a hostile foreign power.

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