"Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke" with Criminal Psychologist Dr. John Matthias

Hidden True Crime

Documentary, News, True Crime, News Commentary, Society & Culture

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🗓️ 3 March 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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In this episode, Lauren and Dr. John discuss the new docu-series "Devil in the Family: The Fall of Ruby Franke." About Hidden True Crime: Lauren Matthias, a former television reporter, and her husband Dr. John Matthias, a criminal psychologist, started Hidden True Crime in 2020 with their Season, 'Beyond the Veil,' a psychological deep dive into the doomsday murders and prophet. What started as a simple conversation at their dinner table became a captivating podcast. Join the dynamic duo of Dr. John Matthias, a forensic psychologist, and Lauren Matthias, an investigative journalist, as they delve into the psychological facets of unthinkable crimes every week. Their unique perspectives and in-depth analysis offer a fresh take on true crime storytelling. Thank you for your support through sponsorships, subscribing, listening, and becoming a Patreon member at Patreon.com/HiddenTrueCrime Our Sponsors:* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Acorns: https://acorns.com/HIDDENTRUECRIME* Check out Armoire and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.armoire.style* Check out Effecty and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://www.effecty.com* Check out Happy Mammoth and use my code HIDDENTRUECRIME for a great deal: https://happymammoth.comSupport this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/hidden-a-true-crime-podcast1836/donationsAdvertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brandsPrivacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:01.6	Devil and the Family, the fall of Ruby Frankie? Because John and I sure did last night. We
1:08.1	watched all three episodes. It's a docu-series. And wow, we've been covering this case since the beginning. A never before seen home video, finally seeing Jody in a trance for me personally.
1:30.0	I don't know about anyone else out there,
1:31.3	but that was my wildest moment for me is actually seeing these alleged trances that we've
1:36.9	heard about in trances.
1:39.0	I'll say trance with a quote symbol because I'll give you a little I think they're complete manipulation
1:46.3	but we'll ask Dr. John because we have a psychologist here with us.
1:51.7	My co-host, Hidden True Crimes co-host, Dr. John Matthias, a criminal and forensic psychologist
1:58.2	and you have been assessing Jody Hildebrandt and Ruby Frankie from the
2:02.9	very beginning helping us process how this happened, who is who, why this happened. And of course,
2:09.4	because of the Frankie family, Kevin coming forward, the children, the adult children coming
2:15.5	forward. And by adult children, I mean Sherry and Chad,
2:19.2	we were able to get a deeper, more inside look on the dynamics going on inside the home
2:26.2	before and after Jody entered their lives. And yes, there were a lot of new snippets. So we're going to get into a lot. But in a hidden true
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