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Hi, I'm Brad Milkey. I'm the host of the Crime Scene Weekly, a new show from ABC

audio about the biggest headlines in true crime. This week, in the heart of Washington's

wilderness, a tragedy has shattered a family. Three young sisters are dead and their father is

on the run. I'll talk to

ABC News correspondent, Kena Whitworth to get the latest. Listen now on Apple, Spotify, Amazon, or wherever

you get your podcasts. On October 1st, 2012, hours before Michael was kidnapped, one of his neighbors noticed something was off.

The neighbor's house was located behind the house where Mary Barnes and Michael lived. Around 2.30 that afternoon, she looked out her second floor window.

She told police what she saw. A white truck with a big dent on its side. It was in the rear

alley of Michael's house, and she saw three men near the truck. One of them was wearing a hard hat. Maybe they were construction

workers. And she told police that she saw a ladder placed on the side of Michael's house.

So then they're standing there and you said something about they were moving the ladder up

and down. Yeah, it was like it was a lot of noise. And I'm going, what happened?

But you asked me before, if I saw anybody go up the ladder, I saw no one go up the ladder.

I was peeking back and forth, but I don't remember, you know.

Okay, so was the sound, did it almost sound like somebody, you know, was raising and lowering the ladder?

Yeah.

Okay.

The neighbor told police what she remembered about their appearance.

One man, she only saw his arms as he held the ladder in place.

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