Devan Schowe: Captivity Sucks
Species Unite
elizabeth novogratz
5.0 • 911 Ratings
🗓️ 21 September 2022
⏱️ 36 minutes
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"The pets tend to be the most behaviorally disturbed, I would say. They have the hardest transition most of the time into kind of sanctuary life, because with the pet trade, infants are usually taken from their mothers within a few days or a few weeks after they're born. And most primate species in the wild will stay with their mothers for at least a couple of years, if not for most of their life. So that's incredibly damaging right off the bat, because that separation is very traumatizing." – Devan Schowe
Devan Schowe is the Campaigns Associate for Born Free USA, a nonprofit wildlife organization with the largest primate sanctuary in the country. Born Free recently release and report on the extensive suffering of giraffe in zoos. I read the report and wanted to talk to Devan about giraffes but also to get her expert perspective on captivity and why it's so harmful to all animals, particularly in zoos.
It completely baffles me that in 2022, most people have no issue with zoos. Maybe they don't know that no matter how "nice" the zoo is, it's still a prison for animals.
Born Free USA https://www.bornfreeusa.org/
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| 0:00.0 | Species, unite Species unite. |
| 0:15.8 | The pets tend to be the most behaviorally disturbed, I would say. |
| 0:20.3 | They have the hardest transition most of the time into kind of like sanctuary life because with the pet trade |
| 0:26.9 | Infants are usually taken from their mothers within a few days or a few weeks after they're born and most primate species in the wild will stay with their |
| 0:35.5 | mothers at least a couple of years if not for most of their life. |
| 0:40.3 | So that's incredibly damaging right off the bat because that separation is very traumatizing. |
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| 1:13.0 | This conversation is with Devon Shoey. |
| 1:24.0 | Devon is a campaign's associate for Born Free USA, |
| 1:28.0 | a nonprofit wildlife organization |
| 1:30.0 | with the largest primate sanctuary in North America. |
| 1:33.4 | Born Freee recently put out a report about giraffes and zoos and the extensive suffering |
| 1:38.0 | that they go through. |
| 1:39.7 | So I wanted to talk to Devon about giraffes but really about captivity in general and |
| 1:44.6 | about why it's so harmful to animals, particularly animals in zoos. So this morning I was on the Born Free website learning about Born Free and I saw |
| 2:09.6 | the movie Born Free and it was one of those movies that definitely was I mean it was incredibly |
| 2:15.8 | good but it also really makes you think because pretty much everything |
| 2:20.6 | born free stands for is wild animals should be in the wild. |
| 2:24.1 | For sure. We do practice compassionate conservation, |
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