Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

Hi, everyone, and welcome to part two of my conversation with Vanessa LaRose.

She grew up in Scientology, And last week, we started our

conversation where she talked about how her parents met and got involved in Scientology and

how she was raised in it and what some of her childhood was like. It was very interesting.

And I am so happy that you'll be able to hear the continuation of our conversation today.

What is so interesting about what she covers today is about how children in Scientology are

treated like little adults and how you feel while you're in it like you live in a secret world

there. And when you leave, you can feel like you just landed

on earth and you feel ill-equipped and kind of out of place and overwhelmed by the world around you.

Vanessa also talks about so many of the important things she's now learning in school and I'm

very excited for her and this new chapter in her life. I'm also looking forward to all of the

Patreon subscribers being able to hear her exclusive third interview with some very powerful

new information and emotional moments. If you'd like to hear her, go to patreon.com

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it's available. Here's Vanessa now.

From this point on, why don't you just, you can take us through the important parts of the

chronology, but also leading up to your relationship.

I think I would love to be able to cover your relationships with your family, your relationships sort of in general,

how you create those in your life now in a healthy way.

And also what you're getting out of being in

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