What's up everybody? Welcome into the next Pats podcast. I'm Phil Perry. We've got a lot of interesting nuggets to drop on you in this week's episode.

We've got two phenomenal guests. We've got Rich Ornberger, former Patriot, current radio host out in San Diego,

wanted to have him on because he might be the best storyteller of the Bill Belichick era.

He was inside the walls, not only under Bill Belichick, but under Bill

O'Brien as well. So with the big hire, I've reported it. Many others have as well.

At this recording, it's about 2 o'clock on Wednesday. Patriots still haven't announced

that they've hired Bill O'Brien as the offensive coordinator, but you can bank on that happening.

And Rich is great in terms of talking to us about how Bill O'Brien teaches his style,

his approach, why the Patriots offense should improve under Bill O'Brien.

So great chat with Rich Ornberger.

And then we're bringing in Eric Galco, who is running the football side of things at the Shrine Bowl,

which starts later this week.

And the Patriots, obviously, are one of the teams that have been brought in to coach one of

the Shrine Bowl teams.

They're coaching the West team out in Las Vegas for the Shrine Bowl this week.

So great information from Eric.

But first, let's get right into our conversation with Rich Orrneberger

because we know you want to hear more about Bill O'Brien

and what might be next for this Patriots offense.

So without further ado, here's Rich.

There he is.

There's our guy, Rich Orneberger.

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