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And today the committee investigating the January 6th attack on the Capitol heard from team normal.

That's how Trump's former campaign manager Bill Steppion characterized the people around the president, telling him he had lost the election.

And there was no fraud. I didn't mind being categorized. There were two groups of family. We called them kind of my team and Rudy's team.

I didn't mind being characterized as being part of team normal witnesses repeatedly testified that top members of the former president's cabinet, legal team and even his own family told him he had lost the election in the claims he was making.

And continues to make that it was stolen from him or simply not true.

Claudia, it was really striking to just hear in rapid order so many of the top voices in the Trump administration saying at the time, this is all false.

This is all false. And that Trump lost the election. Right. We heard from Bill Steppion, then attorney general William Barr.

And this was followed by members of Trump's own family, Ivanka Trump, Jared Kushner. We also heard from former Department of Justice officials.

This includes Jeffrey Rosen, Rick Donahue, giving us a little bit of a preview of the next hearing.

But yeah, it was really striking hearing from these members of Trump's inner circle. And how hard they were battling to get this message to the former president that he had lost.

That there was no election fraud to speak of and trying to tamp down this stolen election campaign.

And really, as you mentioned, team normal did not get through to the former president in the end.

We should also note that Steppion, it was video of deposition from testimony he had given earlier this year.

He was supposed to testify in person today, but his wife apparently went into labor so he could not attend in person.

I talked to Steppion's attorney earlier today, Kevin Moreno, and he said that in terms of Steppion's misdepference, he was here in Washington, DC with his attorney.

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