“Desperate measures”
Deadline: White House
Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW
4.5 • 6.4K Ratings
🗓️ 21 August 2025
⏱️ 43 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, everyone. It is 4 o'clock here in New York. I'm Alicia Menendez. In today for Nicole Wallace. |
| 0:13.2 | Desperate times, desperate measures for Democrats this afternoon. From California to New York and everywhere in between. |
| 0:20.5 | Just moments ago, the California State Assembly approved a ballot measure, allowing for a vote on a new congressional map on November 4th. |
| 0:28.2 | They'll head to the Senate, then presumably the governor's desk for signing. |
| 0:32.2 | It is an in-kind response to what happened late last night in Texas when Republicans there in transparently |
| 0:38.4 | political fashion forged and passed a new district map mid-decade that stands to pad the |
| 0:45.2 | party's majority in Washington. For California, though, today is a sort of break glass in case |
| 0:50.9 | of emergency moment in time, a retaliation for what Democrats, their view as an act |
| 0:55.9 | of political warfare. Here is California Governor Gavin Newsom on the battle lines drawn in Texas. |
| 1:02.4 | This is radical rigging of a midterm election, radical rigging of an election, destroying, vandalizing this democracy, the rule of law. |
| 1:16.9 | So I'm sorry, I know some people's sensibilities. I respect and appreciate that. |
| 1:22.6 | But right now, with all due respect, we're walking down a damn different path. We're fighting fire with |
| 1:29.3 | fire. I'm going to punch these sons of bitches in the mouth. It is an aggressive position to take, |
| 1:35.2 | but Newsom evidently has the support of his party's most popular figure. From President Obama today, |
| 1:40.2 | quote, over the long term, we shouldn't have political gerrymandering in America, just a fair fight between Democrats and Republicans based on who's got better ideas. |
| 1:49.4 | But since Texas is taking direction from a partisan White House and gerrymandering in the middle of a decade to try and maintain the House despite their unpopular policies, I have tremendous respect for how Governor Newsom has approached this. |
| 2:01.8 | He's put forward a smart, measured approach in California, designed to address a very particular |
| 2:06.9 | problem at a very particular moment in time. The question now, how far does this conflict spread? |
| 2:14.0 | A number of states red and blue are at least considering new maps at this moment. |
| 2:19.7 | And this morning, Democrat Nicole Collier, the Texas state representative, developed a national |
| 2:24.1 | profile for her resistance to GOP gerrymandering efforts, told our colleague Ali Vitale |
| 2:29.5 | the conversations with Democrats in other states are ongoing. |
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