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Desk killers: the psychology of committing crimes against humanity

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4.34.7K Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2022

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Author Dan Gretton discusses his book I You We Them, which examines the psychology of individuals who organised and implemented some of the worst crimes against humanity, from the Holocaust to human rights violations in Nigeria. In conversation with Rachel Dinning, he introduces the concept of the ‘desk killer’ – a perpetrator who is responsible for murder without taking an active role in the killing. (Ad) Dan Gretton is the author of I You We Them: Journeys Beyond Evil: The Desk Killer in History and Today (William Heinemann, 2019). Buy it now from Amazon: https://www.amazon.co.uk/You-We-Them-Journeys-Beyond/dp/0434023477/?tag=bbchistory045-21&ascsubtag=historyextra-social-Histboty Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:05.0

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0:07.3

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0:10.3

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0:13.9

I was trying to manipulate you.

0:15.7

Diana, you would be chucking their clothes out of the window.

0:18.1

I know, I'd be like, are you joking?

0:20.6

I don't know.

0:21.7

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1:02.4

Welcome to the History Extra podcast. Fascinating historical conversations from BBC History

1:09.4

Magazine and BBC History revealed.

1:19.1

What makes a person evil? Where does personal responsibility end when considering some of the

1:26.0

worst crimes against humanity? These difficult questions are at considering some of the worst crimes against humanity.

1:29.2

These difficult questions are at the heart of our upcoming conversation with Dan Gretton,

1:34.7

whose book, I, You, We, Them, looks at the psychology of individuals and corporations

1:40.5

who played a part in some of the worst atrocities of the past 200 years,

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