Hey friends, thanks for joining me for Part 2 of 2 with Dr. Shiva Gophroni.

She's been working as an Obbeguine for 21 years and herself had multiple miscarriages,

weight loss surgery, both types of deliveries, and ovarian cancer.

She's now the co-founder of Tribe Called V, a virtual platform that intends to bust open

women's health teaching by finally breaking down all of the basics that affect all of us as women

throughout our lives from our first periods through pregnancy and past menopause. So enjoy

two of two. We're going to talk about desire and the medications that are FDA approved and not

FDA approved for desire.

You can follow her on Instagram at Big Love Fierce Juju, and you can join her email list at

www.w.w.tribe called v.com. I hope you enjoy. Welcome to You Are Not Broken, the only podcast that combines science, medicine, and psychology, to re-educate your brain and help you live your best-to-love life.

And I'm your host, Ford Certified urologist, Dr. Casperson.

So the question that I have for you is, while I totally appreciate and understand your point,

because I say to women all the time, it is so normal to not want to.

And I actually reluctantly use the word normal in a lot of parts of medicine, but I very much use it in this part because I'm surprised, I'm assuming you are, how many women who are educated

assume that everyone else is having sex and they think they're the only ones who's not. And I

joke that I play that game called unicorns and liars. Like if you're at a table and all your friends

are telling you that they're having sex, you're at a table of unicorns or liars, right? Because

when patients are telling us, they really want to have sex with their husband of 20 years,

that's unusual, right? So it's very normal to not want to have that spontaneous desire. And as long

as you can still have an orgasm, that's what's important. But I still feel like all of us, or many of us, for me, do want that,

like, what could be that holy grail of giving us that spontaneous desire, but in healthy doses,

not like an 18-year-old? Like, do you, do you, what do you think of the new medications? Like,

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