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Hey, Chris Duffy here.

I love to hear about how impressive people have thought about designing their lives and careers.

It's always fascinating to me to hear how they got to where they are and what the steps are that brought them there.

And for today's episode, while we're still on break with

how to be a better human here, I want to share a new podcast with you, a new podcast from the TED

audio collective that's called Design Matters with Debbie Millman.

Debbie is a genius.

I really think that.

In every episode, she sits down with different people

from every creative field you can imagine

to discuss how they design the arc of their lives.

And the episode that we're going to play for you right now,

the lineup of guests is unbelievable.

It's just incredible the level of talent that you are about to hear.

This is a special episode that Debbie made

to celebrate Pride Month.

And if you like it, you can hear more episodes

of Design Matters wherever you're listening to this.

Long time listeners of Design Matters will know that over the years I've interviewed a lot of gay men and women.

I've always been interested in hearing how someone has negotiated their sexual identity and a world that is not always open to it.

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