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Design Matters will be back in a few weeks with new episodes.

In the meantime, we wanted to replay this interview from pre-pandemic times from May of 2018.

When anybody in a group or in a room tries to take a risk that helps people meaningfully connect despite the awkwardness. I'm always very moved and very grateful

This is design matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 14 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with

Priya partners about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, EBMA talks with Priya Parker about meetings and gatherings

and why so many of them don't work. In so many group contexts we tend to follow scripts, whether or not we

want to. Here's Debbie Milman.

We're more connected than ever, but it doesn't really feel that way. We talk on the phone less than we used to, but we spend more hours in front of screens or plugged into earbuds.

We're constantly interacting but not always communicating on a meaningful level.

We're busy, but we're not often getting a lot done.

Priya Parker aims to change that.

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