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Design Matters will be back on Monday, February 22nd with a season of new episodes.

In the meantime, we wanted to replay this interview from October of 2017.

We're going to have two or three marriages or committed relationships these days, most

of us in the West, and some of us are going to do it with the same person.

What does that mean?

It means that in the context of me and you, I'm going to be able to be another me.

This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from designobserver.com.

For 13 years now, Debbie Milman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, Debbie Milman talks with therapists and author Esther Perrell about marriage,

polyamory, and adultery.

Many affairs, if they were not discovered and they were left alone, they would die a natural

death.

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10 years ago, Esther Perrell took a big turn in her career.

She was a psychotherapist known for her clinical work with intercultural and interfaith

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