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This archival episode of Design Matters

was recorded in April of 2016.

This is design matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 11 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other

creative types about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're

thinking about. On this podcast, Debbie Millman talks with writer Caroline

Paul about her death-defined adventures and how girls must learn

the difference between fear and exhilaration. When you face a situation you can

choose. Do you want to listen overwhelming you to your fear or do you want to try to access your bravery?

Here's Debbie Millman.

If there is a superhero of girl power, you need look no further than Caroline Paul.

She's fought fires, weathered blizzards on high peaks,

and piloted experimental planes.

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