Today on the Grave Talks, oppression to redemption, a conversation with John Keel.

Sometimes ghost stories are very straightforward and easy to digest.

An entity floating, strange voice or noise in the night, maybe an orb of light.

This isn't one of those stories.

This is a story filled with bizarre experiences and interactions with things that are nearly impossible to comprehend or understand.

Experiences that will make almost anyone question their sanity.

But unfortunately, these events are all too real for John Keel. This is his story today on the

Grape Talks. I would have to say when I was a kid, probably four or five, I remember being at my, my grandmother's house and

lying in bed. And I saw a, I guess what you would typically consider as a, flying through the air, pulling almost like a little chariot behind it.

I remember it clear as day.

And it scared me.

And the family was having a party down on the lake about a half a mile through the woods.

And I remember getting up and just running through the woods to get to the party.

But I would have to say at that point is when my interest began. What an interesting thing to see. I mean,

it's very fantastical. Describe to me, you know, if somebody didn't know what this were to look like, size, you know,

what were you seeing?

You know, I know you said fairy, but, but for somebody who's doing a reference point on

that, what would you describe what you were seeing there?

Okay.

So it was, it was like a bluish white in color, the whole thing. I remember it was about the size maybe two shoe boxes back to back.

And very fluid, moving continually.

You could see little horses.

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