Descend into the Particular
Revisionist History
Pushkin Industries
4.7 • 62K Ratings
🗓️ 1 August 2019
⏱️ 41 minutes
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Summary
An unarmed man is shot to death by police. How does the Jesuitical idea of “disordered attachments” help us make sense of what happened? Part three of three.
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| 0:00.0 | Pushkin. |
| 0:10.0 | Quick heads up, this episode contains depictions of violence that may be upsetting to some listeners. |
| 0:20.0 | In a small, elegant apartment in Hollywood, a young man sits on his couch looking out the open window, remembering the saddest day of his life. |
| 0:29.0 | His name is Philippe Navarro, 30 years old, short black hair, a beautiful, wide smile. |
| 0:36.0 | Angel was my brother. He was my only sibling. We were born exactly like a year and two weeks apart. |
| 0:43.0 | So my birthday is mid-October and he was born the following year on Halloween. |
| 0:48.0 | That was the beginning and this was the end. |
| 0:52.0 | He died Thursday, May 26, 2016 and it was about to be Friday, Memorial Day weekend. |
| 0:59.0 | And we were not notified until that Sunday morning and they claimed that they couldn't find us even though they had his wallet and his NID. |
| 1:10.0 | So then that Sunday my parents had gone to breakfast and they came back and there's about four or five cop cars at their home. |
| 1:20.0 | Angel had been in New Mexico visiting with a friend. Philippe and their parents were in California. |
| 1:27.0 | Philippe doesn't know why it took so long for the New Mexico police to notify them. Three days. Didn't his brother have his ID on him? |
| 1:35.0 | And even after the police came, the Navarro didn't know what happened to Angel. |
| 1:40.0 | I called it Detective and every time I spoke to her they were like, unfortunately, like we can't give you any information because it's under investigation. |
| 1:48.0 | And everything was always under investigation. And at first I didn't really think anything, any sort of malice on the police department because I don't even think I knew at that point that he had been killed by the police. |
| 2:04.0 | And I certainly didn't even know the backstory of how he even got into that altercation with the police. |
| 2:10.0 | I should say incident in all altercation, but I think all I was trying to figure out was what had happened. |
| 2:19.0 | Angel Navarro was killed by the police on Interstate 25 in New Mexico outside Albuquerque on May 26, 2016. |
| 2:29.0 | The officers fired 27 times. They thought Navarro had a gun in his hand. He didn't. He had a cell phone. |
| 2:39.0 | My name is Malcolm Gladwell. You're listening to Revisionist History, my podcast about things overlooked and misunderstood. |
| 2:50.0 | This is the final episode in my three-part mini-series on Thinking Like a Jesuit. |
| 2:59.0 | I will warn you now what I'm talking about in this episode is not for the faint of heart. |
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