So how was the drive up, man?

It's long, but it's not, it's pretty, though.

You know what I mean?

It's a pretty country.

Yeah.

Yeah, I was trying to say, well, you've been on the podcast once before because i remember i didn't know who you were and my wife is a huge broncos fan and uh i was like hey do you know who derrick wolf is and then she looked at me like i was straight special needs running the short bus she's like are you fucking kidding me she's like didn't you play football it's like in high school yeah she's like he's one of the better best defense defensive

lineman ever i was like oh so i googled you and uh then i was like oh shit yeah he he's important

um you at that time though was really just getting more into the outdoor industry

yeah i remember right.

Yeah.

So I hunted as a kid and started bohunting at like probably like 12, 13, killed my first

deer when I was 13.

But football is a fall sport.

Yeah.

Hunting is also in the fall, bow hunting especially.

So it kind of felt it just kind of was something

I wasn't able to do all the time. And living in Cincinnati during college, I was like, you know,

there was places at deer hunt, but who has, there's no time to go do it. Yeah. You know,

and then when I got to the league, I mean, what am I going to on the Tuesday, you know, go out and hike it to, you know, hike 10 miles and try to kill an elk and then pack it out. And I'm just, it's just not going to happen. So it was something that was like, when I get done playing, I'm going to just jump full bore into this. And, was lucky enough to get introduced to the right people.

You know, like Luke was like a huge influence on me, you know, really chasing it.

Same with Lane.

You know, Lane was like, yeah, dude, I think you should do it.

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