So I have very, very much been looking forward to having Derek Del Gaudio on.

And actually, it was kind of quite a surprise where I knew I was going to be talking to you

today.

I come into our office and then I have this in a package, a new book.

So I got to open this and be like, what, I didn't know this was coming, man.

So this is a...

Oh, man.

A moral man is the new book?

Yeah, a moral man that just came out yesterday.

So what, what is the, what am I looking at here or am I supposed to do?

I went into, in and of itself, exactly how I want other people to, which is that I don't

know.

I didn't know anything about it, you know, which is, I think the best way to watch that

show is should I look at this the same way?

Yeah, I mean, it's more of a narrative than the show.

Certainly, there's more of a linear structure in that regard, but yeah, I mean, I like to

go into everything, really not knowing things.

But it is definitely more of a narrative that's easier to describe in this show, certainly.

Okay.

Yeah, because that's a really interesting thing.

I mean, first of all, let me just tell you, I mean, you've discovered it from social

media and stuff, but like I saw the show, I was, I was recommended to watch the show a

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