middle cop. Here we go recording this podcast on a Thursday live on YouTube with an interview

on the show today. John in addition to all the stuff we're going to talk about. We have

one of the most respected people and coaches as a person and as an offensive coach and an

overall program. Guider on our show today, Oregon State head coach Jonathan Smith joins

us on the show today. I won't tell him they lost me $500 last weekend attending the game

just because I was all in on the I think I know I knew he was coming on the podcast, but

they got from Fresno State. I was able to win 60% of it back. So you're not going to

bring that up. You're saying no, no, we'll let us sleeping dogs lie. Is that the same?

That's right. Yeah. So if you're watching on the YouTube, that interview we recorded it

on Wednesday will be in the audio version of the podcast, which you can get down in the

link below. That interview will also be loaded on YouTube. So if you want to watch Jonathan

Smith, we'll put that up. You don't have to be a college football fan or a packed roll fan

or an Oregon State fan to like it. We just talk a ton of we talk about him. He was a great

quarterback played with you know, Chad Johnson was on his team when he was there, but just

I think his perspective on quarterbacking his perspective on football, his perspective

on program building on leadership. Why as a play caller, he doesn't call the plays. Even

though that's where you know, he got he got his notice at first at Washington. So a lot

of good stuff there. Yeah, the absolute man. I'm a big fan and you know, I'm pretty confident.

This now this is his alma mater, but don't be shocked one day people if he's coaching

at a at a bigger school UCLA. Yeah, he's from Pasadena, but that'd be very attractive.

It's hard, but you know what? The other side of that is the guys who have left Oregon

State like Dennis Erickson and Mike Riley. We have to go through their careers, but I don't

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