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And today we have the guests on the line. Can you tell us what we'll be talking about today?

Um, de-realization. Okay, so de-realization, uh, I have no idea what that means. So can you kind

of explain for someone who has no like prior knowledge of what this is kind of what it is that

you're dealing with? Sure. So um, it's like a mental health thing, I guess. Um, and like the

dictionary definition is a feeling that one surroundings aren't real. Um, but for me, I guess it's like

uh, more of like a coping mechanism for other mental health stuff that I have going on.

Now when you say like you think that it's not real, like what do you mean by that?

So um, it's kind of like, not like I think it's not real. Like obviously I know the world around

me exists and is real, but um, it's just like sort of like a disconnected feeling, I guess, like

sort of like a third person like out of body type of thing. Yeah. So I was reading about it before

and it's it really is hard to wrap your mind around. So it's kind of the feeling of like,

I guess a dissociation from your real life or kind of like you're an observer of your life,

but like not in your body. It's almost like an outer body experience. I know these things sound

really out there, but I guess one of the examples I saw is like a daydream is sort of an example of

like how we dissociate in life. So like we've all dissociated. Like we've all had those moments

of like a daydream where you just kind of slip into this like non reality of your reality.

Like you know it's real, but it's it's just like foggy. Like you're almost like floating. Um,

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