From The Advocate Magazine, I'm Jeffrey Masters and you're listening to LGBTQ and A.

Today I'm talking to Dorey McKesson.

Dorey is a civil rights activist, one of the most recognizable faces in the Black Lives Matter movement,

and the author of On the Other Side of Freedom.

We talk about what the Black Lives Matter movement has accomplished, what's still being worked on,

and then Drey poses a really interesting question that he says he doesn't have an answer to.

And that is that when Donald Trump is no longer president and that suddenly doesn't mean

everything's going to be okay, when that happens and when the threat is less overt,

will we still be as mobilized to do something about it as we are now?

So that conversation is coming up,

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