Hi, I'm Imran Ahmed, founder and CEO of the Business of Fashion, and welcome to the

BOF podcast. This week, we're going back to Voices 2018. Dorey McKesson was already well known to

the Voices community as he joined us for our first edition of Voices in 2016. Dore is a civil rights activist and community organizer who began his career as an educator

and came to prominence for his role in documenting the Ferguson protests in 2014, following the

fatal shooting of Michael Brown by a police officer.

Doree is a leading voice in the Black Lives Matter movement and the co-founder of

Campaign Zero, a policy platform to end police violence. Up until now, DeRae has not written much more

than his 180 character tweets, which are followed by more than 1 million people. But in his new book,

On the Other Side of freedom, the case for

Hope, DeRay explores how America can dismantle its legacy of racism. Here's DeRay McKesson

at Voices 2018. Now, when we were in the street in Ferguson, if you ever saw us in the street,

it wasn't that we loved marching. It was illegal to stand still in August,

September, and October of 2014. If we stood still for more than five seconds, we were arrested.

And I'm reminded of that so often because it helps me remember how fragile freedom was, how fragile

freedom is. You know, one of the things that we carry with us every single day was this chant, no justice,

no peace, no justice, no peace, a chant that you might have said in the street, a chant that we've

said many times. Some people took that as a threat, but we understood it as a statement of fact that

any call for justice, any call for peace not rooted in a demand for justice was something that we

didn't want. We wanted a living, breathing justice, a justice that we could feel and touch and see and hear.

A justice that said, Mike Brown was coming home today.

A justice has said, Tamir Rice was playing with his friends again and that Rakea Boy was going to another cookout.

We wanted a justice made real.

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