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The Irish Passport

Deporting the Irish

The Irish Passport

The Irish Passport

Society & Culture

4.8652 Ratings

🗓️ 2 February 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Did you know that the United States' border policy and power to deport people was invented to get rid of famine-era immigrants from Ireland? It's a little-known chapter of history that challenges many current day stereotypes in anti-immigrant discourse. Naomi and Tim break it down in this new episode, featuring historian Hidetaka Hirota, whose book on the subject upended much of what was previously thought about the origins of US immigration policy. A surging nativist movement determined to root out the undocumented and deport immigrants deemed to be 'undesirable': it is a timely subject for the present day. We discuss how talk of raids and mass deportations by the new administration of Donald Trump is sparking fears among the thousands of undocumented Irish people living in the US. Naomi and Tim dig deeper into this history in a bonus debrief episode available for supporters over on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/halfpint-debrief-121365055 "There is a hidden, unspoken assumption that European immigrants were always legal... I always argue that that is a really wrong association in the first place. Undocumented immigration has always involved European immigration." Patreon supporters can listen to the full interview with Hidetaka Hirota here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/deporting-poor-121367468

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to Irish Passport.

0:02.3

Let's do it.

0:03.1

Welcome to the Irish Passport.

0:04.8

I'm Tim McInerney.

0:06.0

I'm Naomi O'Leary.

0:07.0

We're friends.

0:07.7

Can you both to Naomi?

0:08.5

Anwar Fat, Tim.

0:09.9

This is your passport to Irish culture, history and politics.

0:13.2

Uh-huh.

0:13.4

I'm recording.

0:14.2

One, two, two, three.

0:16.6

Okay.

0:37.7

Hello everyone and welcome back to the Irish Passport Podcast.

0:43.2

Hi everyone. In this episode we are discussing a piece of history that has suddenly become very relevant today, the backstory of Irish immigration to the United States, which has taken

0:49.1

on a new prescience as the US administration begins an immigration crackdown.

0:54.0

In current day discourse, the word undocumented immigration in the US is frequently used as a euphemism for non-white immigration,

1:02.0

particularly from across the Mexican border. And along with that belief goes a common misconception

1:07.0

that immigration from Europe to the US was somehow always legal through history.

1:12.0

Of course, neither of these ideas bear out in reality.

1:15.6

There are thousands of undocumented Irish people in the US, most of them white, who are at

1:20.3

risk of being caught up in the expected immigration crackdown.

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