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TALKING POLITICS

Deporting Mexicans

TALKING POLITICS

Catherine Carr

News, News & Politics

4.72.5K Ratings

🗓️ 5 January 2020

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Gary Gerstle explores the forgotten history of Mexican deportations from the southern United States in the 1930's and asks how it fits into the longer story of US immigration policy up until today. From open borders to 'Build That Wall': what's next?


Talking Points: 


Immigrant labour has always been vital to U.S. economic development.

  • The United States presented itself as being a different kind of society. This was partially ideological, and partially a labour imperative.


In the early 20th century, the labour imperative became less acute. 

  • America still thought of itself as a Protestant society.
  • In this period, the United States implemented draconian immigration restrictions, including racialized quotas.
  • The fear of revolutionary organized labour also affected quotas. The Jews and the Italians were targeted due to anxiety over communism and anarchism.


Immigration from Mexico has always been a slightly different story.

  • The restrictive immigration laws of the 1920s excluded the western hemisphere. Mexicans were still coming in large numbers because agricultural corporate interests needed Mexican migrant labour. 
  • But because this was land-based immigration, there was more flow back and forth. Much of this migration was temporary, or at least the powers that be thought that it could be.


In the 1930s, over 500,000 Mexicans were deported, mostly by state and local governments.

  • This was mass expulsion with little due process.
  • The idea was that Meixcan labour was driving down wages; but the forces at work were much greater than immigration, and deportation didn’t solve the agricultural crisis.


The ongoing need for labour led to the creation of the first guest workers’ program in the 1940s (the Bracero Program). 

  • The United States was still treating Mexico as a controllable surplus labour pool, but there has always been seepage.
  • In the 1960s, the immigration system was overhauled again to make things more egalitarian: but this disadvantaged Mexicans.
  • There’s another key overhaul in the 1980s to allow for the right to asylum. If Trumpism continues, these laws will likely be reversed.


Further Learning: 


And as ever, recommended reading curated by our friends at the LRB can be found here: lrb.co.uk/talking

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, my name is David Ronserman and this is Talking Politics. This is the fifth episode

0:11.5

in our American History series. And Gary Gerstel is going to take us through the story

0:16.4

of America's attempts to control its borders during the 20th century. And the neglected

0:21.7

chapter of Mexican deportation in the 1930s. Why has the southern border been such a problem

0:29.1

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0:59.1

Gary the periods that we were talking about in the earlier episodes, the second half of

1:06.4

the 19th century into the first decade of the 20th century, are the great periods of immigration

1:11.8

into the United States. This is a nation, a modern nation, an industrial nation founded

1:16.4

on immigration primarily from Europe but not exclusively from Europe. And then as in all

1:21.9

of these stories there is a backlash in the 1920s. What provokes the backlash?

1:29.2

First it should be said how extraordinarily welcoming the United States was of immigrants

1:34.4

in the 19th century. It's estimated. We don't have exact figures on this but these are pretty

1:39.0

close from 1820 to 1920. 35 million immigrants came into a society that numbered only 75

1:47.9

million in 1900 and those are extraordinary numbers. America's never had the immigrant

1:52.5

density of the early 20th century again. It's getting closer now but it won't reach those

1:59.1

levels. And there were two reasons for this one. America was a big country with enormous

2:04.8

land mass and great ambitions for economic development and it was severely short of labor.

2:09.1

And even with a very rapid rate of natural increase among the population it was not enough

2:14.4

and so immigrant labor was absolutely vital for economic development. And then America

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