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Stay Tuned with Preet

Deporting Due Process

Stay Tuned with Preet

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, Politics, Government, News

4.832.3K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2025

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

Who gets due process? Did the Trump administration deny Kilmar Abrego Garcia due process by deporting him to El Salvador despite an immigration judge’s prior order blocking his removal? Listen to an excerpt from the Insider podcast with Preet Bharara and Joyce Vance.   In the full episode, Preet and Joyce further discuss the Abrego Garcia case, including a recent circuit court opinion, authored by a conservative judge, strongly rebuking the Trump administration’s resistance to court orders compelling officials to facilitate Abrego Garcia’s return to the United States. Also on the Insider docket: – The Supreme Court’s emergency order blocking the Trump administration from using the Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan gang members; – A federal judge’s indication that he will launch contempt proceedings against the Trump administration for seemingly violating his order blocking some deportations; and – The latest developments in the “Signal-gate” controversy, after reporting revealed Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth shared sensitive information in a group chat with his wife, brother, and lawyer. CAFE Insiders click HERE to listen to the full analysis. Not an Insider? Now more than ever, it’s critical to stay tuned. To hear from reasoned voices in unreasonable times, become an Insider today. You’ll get access to full episodes of the podcast and other exclusive content. Head to cafe.com/insider. Subscribe to our YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by CAFE and Vox Media Podcast Network. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.

0:04.0

Preet and I are back with a new episode of The Insider podcast.

0:08.0

We discussed the Supreme Court's emergency order, blocking the Trump administration from using the Alien Enemies Act to deport a group of alleged Venezuelan gang members.

0:17.0

Then, a federal judge has indication that he plans to launch contempt proceedings against the Trump administration for seemingly violating a similar court order.

0:24.5

Plus, a federal circuit court opinion in the Kilmar-Abrego-Garcia case, reminding the Trump

0:29.5

administration that deportees are still entitled to due process.

0:34.0

And finally, the latest in the Signalgate controversy, after reporting revealed, Defense Secretary Pete Hexeth, shared sensitive information in a group chat with his wife, brother, and lawyer.

0:45.7

If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to hear the full analysis.

0:53.8

Stay tuned, listeners. Stick

0:55.4

around for an excerpt from our conversation. To hear the full discussion, become a member by heading

1:00.6

the cafe.com slash insider. Now, onto the show.

1:08.9

So, Joyce, now let's talk more fully about Mr. Obrego-Garcia.

1:15.6

And I'll say to you what I've said repeatedly to folks again and again and again.

1:21.7

Because the administration seeks to make this a debate about whether Abrago-Garcia is or is not affiliated with MS-13.

1:29.9

And I say, I don't care. That is not the issue, as his lawyers keep arguing.

1:36.4

And this Harvey Wilkinson, Fourth Circuit decision, which, if anything, has been...

1:41.6

That's Jay Harvey Wilkinson to be.

1:43.3

Jay Harvey Wilkinson, Judge.

1:45.9

Not a lily-livered liberal, as people used to call them,

1:50.7

but a rock-ribbed conservative,

1:52.7

as people also used to call people on the other side

1:54.7

of the ideological spectrum.

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