DEPORTATION
Thinking Allowed
BBC
4.4 • 997 Ratings
🗓️ 18 November 2020
⏱️ 30 minutes
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DEPORTATION: Laurie Taylor explores the lives of people whose criminal convictions have led to them being deported to Jamaica, although many of them left the Caribbean as children and grew up in the UK. Luke de Noronha, Simon Research Fellow in the School of Social Sciences at the University of Manchester, describes the experiences of a group who are regarded as undeserving of sympathy, compared to the victims of the Windrush scandal of 2018. But are such hard and fast divisions fair or accurate? They’re joined by Adam Goodman, Assistant Professor of History and Latin American Studies at the University of Illinois, who traces the long history of deportation in the US, beyond current headlines about detention camps and anti migrant ‘walls’, and asks if America is deserving of its reputation as a country which has always welcomed immigrants.
Producer: Jayne Egerton
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| 0:47.0 | UK. Hello, some years ago, I became involved in a heated debate about the limits of sympathy. |
| 0:54.3 | Together with my colleague Stanley Cohen, |
| 0:56.2 | I'd written a book about the extreme prison conditions endured by a group of criminals |
| 1:01.1 | who'd been sentenced to very long terms of imprisonment for a range of heinous offences. |
| 1:06.0 | We wanted to draw attention to the manner in which these prisoners fought against the mental and physical deterioration |
| 1:13.2 | which threatened them in their long years of confinement. |
| 1:16.4 | We were, perhaps inevitably, accused by some of allowing such sympathetic concerns to obscure the seriousness of the crimes these men had committed. |
| 1:26.6 | I mean, why should anyone care about the fate of murderers and gangsters? |
| 1:31.4 | Well, I remembered this reaction, as I was reading a new book called |
| 1:35.1 | Deporting Black Britons Portraits of Deportation to Jamaica. Back in 2018 |
| 1:41.5 | there was considerable public sympathy for those members of the Windrush Generation |
| 1:46.0 | who had been wrongly deported from the UK by the Home Office or had lost their jobs or homes |
| 1:51.3 | or been denied benefits or the medical care to which they |
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