With Jesus he takes your soul pain. He takes your burden. I believe in a God that would

actually want to do it for me and want to take that. You believe it and you receive it

and he takes it from you.

Welcome to the Jesus Calling Podcast. Life as a journey is almost cliche now, but there's

a reason why the metaphor persists. Journeys are difficult. We fight through injuries, claw

our way to the tops of mountains and endure the elements. We enjoy the completion of one

segment only to find another looming ahead with its own set of obstacles. Journeys are

visions of life's failures and triumphs that emphasize the importance of keeping on.

Our guests this week share how they've persisted and how Jesus has carried their burdens with

them on their journeys. John Gordon overcame a negativity learned from childhood to become

a highly sought after motivational speaker. But even with his success he felt empty and

a search for meaning led him to an unlikely source who told him that Jesus could take

his soul pain away from him. Andrew Carter grew up at a family plate with drugs and alcohol.

After being in an out of jail multiple times Andrew turned to Jesus long enough to be called

to the ministry, but then he had what he calls a Jonah moment when he ran the other direction.

Eventually he found his way back to that calling as a social media influencer on platforms

like TikTok and YouTube, where he shares the gospel with millions. For both John and

Andrew life has been a journey that's best done with Jesus. Let's start with John's story.

So I grew up in a Jewish Italian family and my mom was Jewish, my dad was Catholic Italian,

a lot of food, a lot of guilt, a lot of wine, a lot of whining. So it wasn't the most

positive household. Very loving, but my dad was one of the most negative people on the

planet. He was a New York City police officer undercover narcotics. So he was shot a few

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