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Ukrainecast

Denounced in Russia

Ukrainecast

BBC

News Commentary, News

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2023

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

LONG: BBC Moscow’s Will Vernon gives Lyse and Vitaly the latest on the murder of a pro-war blogger in St Petersburg and a growing spate of people denouncing family, colleagues and strangers.

Vitaly speaks to Tetyana Sokolova, a midwife in a Mariupol maternity hospital that kept the wards open while the city lost water, gas and electricity.

And as Finland ends 70 years of official strategic neutrality by joining the Nato military alliance, former Finnish PM, Alexander Stubb says Putin only has himself to blame and dismisses Russian talk of counter-measures.

Today’s episode is presented by Lyse Doucet and Vitaly Shevchenko. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov and Luke Radcliff. The technical producer was Jonny Hall. The series producer is Fiona Leach. The assistant editor is Alison Gee and the editor is Sam Bonham. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

0:04.6

It's 405 days since Russia began its invasion of Ukraine.

0:10.6

And it's a tale of two men today.

0:13.0

The pro-war Russian military blogger, Ladlin Tartarsky, with more than half a million

0:19.2

followers on his telegram channel.

0:28.9

Vitaly, what is he saying in Russian?

0:31.1

Okay, here's the quote.

0:33.3

Will defeat everyone, will kill everyone, and will rob everyone we need to.

0:39.9

Everything will be just the way we like it.

0:42.3

And it's also important where he's saying it.

0:44.5

He's saying it at a formal reception in the Kremlin.

0:47.9

And he was killed in a St. Petersburg Cafe on Sunday while he was speaking at a pro-war

0:55.4

event surrounded by his supporters.

0:57.4

And the Cafe is linked to Yevgeny Pregoshen, who is head of the infamous Wagner group

1:11.9

of mercenaries.

1:14.0

Both men have been critical of the Russian army for, as they say, holding back in Ukraine

1:20.8

and failing to provide the mercenaries with adequate weapons.

1:24.6

But let's listen to what Pregoshen said on Sunday night in the empathlete city of

1:29.6

Bachmoot in eastern Ukraine.

1:38.9

He's claiming to have finally raised the Russian flag over the city after months of bloody

1:45.3

street-to-street battles.

1:51.0

Vitaly, it is interesting that he's declaring victory and how he mentions that it's in,

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