Welcome to Kafaru Cast. Hopefully nobody out there listening in has the coronavirus.

I have two very good friends, long time bow hunters and guys with a lot of knowledge that you should probably listen to on the podcast today and that's

Diny Sturgis and Randy Cooling, a combined age of 142 years old. Thanks for coming on guys.

Exactly, exactly. Yeah. How you doing, man? Good, good.

So you guys combined how much hunting experience together do you guys have? I got like 40, 47 years now, some like that, 45, 47.

Since I started hunting deer, you know, bow hunting deer, I don't count all the running around as a little kid shooting a rabbit in the backyard, stuff like that.

Diny started before me. I know that he was hunting deer before I was.

Yeah, first year I hunted was 1972. I was negative five step back. Well, Diny, you recently, I don't know if you got licked up or got pissed off, but you've posted photos for about 30 days straight of of trad kills. What, what instigated that?

All just a couple of comments on there about how trad guys just hunt with trad equipment is to look cool and dress.

So you look neat and they never really kill anything to do anything hunting guys. I just wanted to get all my stuff there and on Instagram. So, well, it was like reading gone with the wind.

How many how many photos did you post? How many how many animals do you think that you've taken down with a stick bow?

I'm sure it's over 400, but I'm not I'm not I'm never kept track anymore. Yeah, it's quite a few. What I mean between the two of you not to bring up old stuff, but Randy has a bit of a problem with doll sheep and Diny has gotten one.

Do you have a brown bear, Diny? No. Okay, we'll see that's kind of a tie because Randy's got one. How many times did you go, Diny, before you got a doll sheep?

That's me. I got on the first trip. I got lucky. Well, I just but how many times did you and he wanted to win? He wanted to win except I booked a hunt and he called me up and asked me if there's any openings.

I had a long book and I made a phone call that night and got it got him lined up and everything and he went and then he gets to whack one.

You guys went with the landcasters, right? You went with Clay and Jim. Yeah, yeah, up in the yards. That's one place to hunt. Need or hell. Yeah, well, let's hear the story, Diny. What happened? I've heard three versions. So I want to hear the truthful one.

Okay, well, I was hunting with Brody Cardinal was my guide, a young guy. We kept going after Rams every day, but we'd get over there. It was like a five hour one way hike and they would disappear on us.

We went across this, but you know, the backside of the arches is cliff like we did that one day and I like I never want to do that again because I never been more scared.

But they saw me. We were going to move camp and I I just glass in one way and he was glass in the other way and I saw those three Rams again. I ran down and I said, they're here again. So we didn't move camp. We went over there and we had to get there fast and he wanted to go close across that backside again. We did it again and I hated that.

I'd take my bow right apart, stick it in my packs. I could have all my hands and stuff. Anyway, we skied it over there. There was a run again and he climbed up high and there was a little grassy bowl up on top that you couldn't see from anywhere else. And they was all there.

So he's taking on a nice snuck over there and then pop up and it's I didn't carry a range band of that. But I had a facewalk plan that I figured it was 50 yards. I said, man, I'd like to get closer.

He's like, okay, but you're not going to shoot an arrow today, right? I'm like, yeah, we were full of ground and we sneak in and get a shit of game. 10 yards and they had moved so they're still 50 yards. So I pulled up and shot and shot low and I thought it was 50.

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