Hello there. Thank you for coming back to another episode of Crime and Coffee. My name's Allison.

And my name's Mike. And we're here. Yeah. Hey, we're here to throw some more disgusting details of murder and mayhem and mischief and less mischief, more horribleness and darkness.

If you're here for darkness and a good, you know, story about death and murder, then you

came to the right place.

Has it affected your sleep at all?

No, like I thought that it would.

Because, you know, to catch our listeners up, I'm kind of a rookie to these whole true

crime things.

And yeah, no, no. I, luckily I can compartmentalize it, you. I'm kind of a rookie to these whole true crime things.

And yeah, no, no. I, luckily I can compartmentalize it, you know, and kind of leave it just in while we talk about it and then what I'm researching, obviously. And it's really fun to research

these things. I will say that. I've always been a huge fan of researching in general, especially

because, you know, the internet just gives you so many different avenues.

And it's really cool.

You know, kind of leaned into something that you kind of taught me getting into different,

you know, reading a couple different articles and then watching a documentary too.

Yeah, you get a lot more from the documentary because oftentimes they're interviewing somebody

that's directly related to the case and affected by this person.

Yeah.

Or somebody who has interviewed all of these different people that is like an expert in the case.

It's funny, though, how different sources give you different information, like years, different, ages, different things like that.

Details that, you know ultimately

you wonder sometimes even is it true and and the one I'm doing today they interviewed

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