Denise Gough, Gymnastics post birth, Endometriosis tribunal
Woman's Hour
BBC
4.1 • 3K Ratings
🗓️ 22 January 2026
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Anita Rani talks to double Olivier award winning actress Denise Gough about her latest role as Amy Fowler in a new play based on the famous western High Noon. She’ll be discussing how her character reflects the early feminist movement and what it’s been like to find her singing voice for the first time in 30 years.
Elite British gymnast Alice Kinsella won Olympic bronze in the team event at Tokyo 2020 and is a two-time European champion. Now she’s seeking to become the first British artistic gymnast to return to elite competition after giving birth. Returning to elite sport after having a baby is becoming more visible in some areas – but in gymnastics, it’s still extremely rare. Anita talks to Alice alongside Julie Gooderick, a sports scientist based at the University of Kent, who is closely studying Alice’s return.
We speak to Sanju Pal who has won her high court Employment Appeal Tribunal against the global consulting firm where she worked for 10 years. She has endometriosis and claimed she was unfairly dismissed. Sanju Pal and Emma Cox, Chief Executive of Endometriosis UK, joins Anita to discuss the understanding of endometriosis in the workplace, and what this judgement could mean for other women.
The BRIT Award nominations were out last night and women dominate. Best Pop Act is an all women shortlist: RAYE, Lily Allen, Lola Young, Olivia Dean and JADE. Lola Young and Olivia Dean have the most nominations, both up for Artist of the Year, alongside Lily Allen, JADE, Little Simz and PinkPantheress. Nearly two thirds of the nominations feature women as solo artists or in mixed gender group - the highest representation yet. So why are women riding high in the music industry at the moment? Anita talks to Roisin O'Connor, Music Editor at The Independent.
Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Corinna Jones
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts. |
| 0:07.0 | Hello, I'm Greg Jenner, and good news, |
| 0:09.5 | Your Dead to Me, is back for a new series. |
| 0:11.6 | Here we go. |
| 0:12.1 | Yes, we'll explore Emperor Nero's notorious reign with Professor Mary Beard and Patton Oswald. |
| 0:16.9 | I would not want my daughter having the remote control, not alone an empire. |
| 0:38.6 | We'll dissect the decadent life of Philippe Duke-Dolion with Tom Allen. I've often tried to pretend I'm an aristocrat and being very quickly knocked down. And there'll be so much more with comedians like Olga Koch, Mike Mosniak and Riaena. I'm excited. You're dead to me. The comedy podcast that takes history seriously. Listen first on BBC Sounds. |
| 0:43.9 | Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4. |
| 0:50.1 | Just to say that for rights reasons, the music in the original radio broadcast has been removed for this podcast. |
| 0:52.5 | Good morning and welcome to the programme. |
| 1:12.3 | The extraordinarily talented Denise Goff is here. She's currently on stage in the West End in High Noon, an adaptation of the classic Western. I'll be speaking to her very soon. Shunjou Paul has won her high court tribunal appeal against her ex-employer, who she says failed to recognize the impacts that endometriosis had on her life, |
| 1:17.7 | her health and ability to work. So could this be a game changer for workplace protections for women with endometriosis? We'll be hearing her story. And she won a bronze medal at the Tokyo |
| 1:23.6 | Olympics. And now, after having a baby, gymnast Alice Kinsella is returning to elite sport. |
| 1:29.7 | Now, every woman's body is different and lifestyle, no doubt, plays a huge part, but I'm |
| 1:33.9 | interested to hear how eager some of you were to start exercising or training again postpartum |
| 1:39.9 | and how able you were. We're not all Olympians, but maybe you love to run or swim or play a sport. |
| 1:46.1 | Did your body play ball with your will to want to move? |
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