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The Playbook Podcast

Dems’ candidate concerns

The Playbook Podcast

POLITICO

Politics, Government, Daily News, News

3.9699 Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Democrats are fretting about a certain candidate profile in red and purple states that’s giving some in the party heartburn. Much of their consternation is over what they view as ultra-liberal positions that are resistance relics of Trump 1.0 — ones they think won’t age well among median voters in states where Democrats already absorbed setbacks. The vetting intensified after Tennessee Democratic state Rep. Aftyn Behn cut into GOP margins in a deep-red district, but still lost as Republicans attacked her position on defunding the police. Playbook’s Adam Wren and politics reporter Andrew Howard discuss what the concerns mean for the midterms.

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0:00.0

Today on the Playbook podcast, Democrats are fretting about a certain kind of primary candidate in red and purple states.

0:13.4

The Commerce Department is releasing its preliminary estimate for third quarter growth.

0:18.1

Hello, I'm Adam Wren.

0:19.6

And I'm Andrew Howard. It's Tuesday, December 23rd.

0:24.7

Andrew, just two big stories to talk about today. The first story driving Washington's conversation is

0:30.9

Democrats are fretting about the certain profile of a kind of candidate in red and purple states

0:36.8

that is giving them some

0:38.0

heartburn right now. After Democrats' unexpected string of victories this year, special elections

0:44.6

across the map, particularly most recently in Tennessee, where Afton Bain cut into Donald Trump's

0:51.2

double-digit margin of victory from 2024.

1:00.1

There are still Democrats in the party who are fretting that she was too out there on defund the police and abolishing ICE and really could have actually won.

1:05.4

And so now, Andrew, Democrats are taking a closer look in some of their candidates in Democratic

1:10.3

primaries that are being

1:11.4

contested in places like Michigan, in places like Iowa, in places like Texas. And they're trying to

1:17.8

say, look, we should be very careful about nominating the kind of candidate who can win in a purple or

1:23.1

red state. So there's a few candidates that we can kind of walk through, Andrew, you can kind of guess

1:27.7

some of them. And so the first candidate that we have on the map, Andrew, is Zach Walls. He comes from a more

1:32.3

liberal part of reddening Iowa. And he has a history during the civil rights protest in the George

1:38.8

Floyd era of tweeting about, quote, extraditional killing of black people by white people is not a, quote,

1:45.7

black problem. It's a white problem. And he's also said that, you know, policing and policing

1:51.0

problems are not a, quote, bad Apple issue without looking it up. He asked one user approximately

1:57.2

how many U.S. civilians do you think are killed every year by police officers.

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