Hello, and welcome to the thinking fellow's podcast. My name is Caleb Keith. Today I am joined by Bruce Hillman and Adam Francisco. My dad is away in Finland, I think still, somewhere. He's somewhere in Scandinavia. And he's there teaching. He's been teaching at schools and churches

in a camp for the last several weeks. And I think he'll be back for our next episode. So we should

see him again. But while he is gone, we are going to do the forbidden episode or the episode. I think

we talked about this. It had to be two years ago even now. But he just didn't really want to do it,

which is we're going to talk about angels and demons. Not the book.

Yeah.

The book is the sequel for the DaVinci Code, yeah.

I guess the framing here has to be, what are the questions we're going to try to answer about angels and demons?

Demons get talked about a lot right now,

which is interesting.

Oddly enough,

in political context,

because of the UAP,

UFO thing.

I think it was from this recording,

maybe just two weeks ago,

J.D. Vance was in an interview where he said he

believes that there, um, that a lot of the, the documents on aliens are actually that they're

demons. Um, so I think that I've actually shared an opinion like that. I think like in brief bursts here on the show before, too, that I have concerns about the

U.S. government and working alongside demons.

But the, but that gets talked about a lot.

I don't know.

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