The I'm going to be. Welcome to Spirits podcast, a bozied-in-in-to-mythology, legends, and folklore.

Every week, we pour a drink and learn about a new story from around the world.

I'm Amanda.

And I'm Julia. And I'm

Julia. And we are joined today by a past and future guest Lauren Shippin. Now, I have a couple

things to say here. First of all, Lauren Shippen prolific, podcaster, writer, creator of 2000 and late,

a new dark comedy by atypical artists, as well as the upcoming Phantom Pulse. She'll tell us more about that, spooky.

But Lauren, I just ran some stats real quick before we started. You've only been on the show once.

That was episode 17, Stonehenge. But don't worry, you are mentioned in 12 additional episodes,

either your work, your books, or anecdotes, you know, you as a friend.

So, I mean, welcome back to the show whopping nine years later. Wow. Wow. I mean, thank you so

much for nine years. Jesus. Thank you so much for having me back and for mentioning. It's lovely to

be mentioned. And yeah, I believe that that first spirits recording

was the first time that the three of us ever met in person. That is true. Back in, what,

2016? Yeah, that was the year. That was nine years ago. That's there's the math on that. Yeah.

I've never felt older than in this moment. I know, good Lord. It's true. And I just

want to just invite you to kind of tell me just like what's up with you in your life in the past

almost decade. And how is your relationship to the spooky kind of evolving over that decade?

Yeah. So we first met, yeah, nine, ten years ago because we were,

we were both in the podcast game. We've both been in the podcast game or we all have been

in the podcast game, both being spirits and, and me. But obviously the three of us have all

been in the podcast game in various ways. And I've just kept making audio dramas. So, you know,

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