Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Preachie Boys podcast. Today, I'm sitting down with Lindsay

William. She's a friend of the show who's been on before, and I always love getting to chat with her.

She had a background in kind of the Bill Gothard, IBLP world, and you may have seen her in shows

like Amazon Prime's, shiny, happy people. And today we're going to be talking about a specific book titled Turmoil in the

Toy Box by Phil Phillips. This book came out during the height of the satanic panic and warns against

the dangers of really sinister objects and toys like He-Man and Masters of the Universe or Dungeons

and Dragons or Care Bears, you know, all the really

dark stuff that you can experience as a kid. He covers it all in this book. And honestly,

this conversation was supposed to be more of like a page by page, chapter by chapter review

of the book, highlighting some of the biggest silly points in it. But about midway through, we ended up putting the book down

and just kind of talking about the things that scared the hell out of us when we were fundamentalist

kids. And so for those of you that like podcast episodes that feel more like the friendly

conversation where you're sitting at the dinner table talking or you're on FaceTime with a friend

discussing a book you read.

This episode is for you. Maybe at some point we'll come back and do a more structured formal

conversation, but this was really just a cathartic, ex-fundy conversation that I think so many

of you in my audience will relate to. So without further ado, let's get into my conversation

with Lindsay Williams.

The year is 1986.

The biggest threat the church has ever faced appears in the form of He-Man and the Masters

of the Universe.

Only one person will armor up and defeat this enemy, And that is Phil Phillips, the author of

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