Gabriel, good to have you.

Are we sharding?

Yeah, this is it.

I love it, great.

I love that you brought a shrine with you.

Dude, I...

This is fantastic.

I'm a naughty boy, and our lady has to keep a short leash on me because loose lips sink ships, as they say.

Yeah, I've nearly been sunk by my own.

Loose lips multiple times, but it's really nice to have you. Thanks for having me. It's an honor to be here. I think the first time I ever saw you, you were giving a talk and it was on YouTube, and this must have been, I don't know, maybe 10 years ago even.

And I just remember thinking that you were very much like Jason Everett. Do you know Jason?

Yes, people used to tell me that you're like the young Jason Everett and then I would respond,

he's like the old me.

But there's like a, you have this sort of stability, you seem to have, because I don't

know you.

You seem to have a sort of stability in your spiritual life that seems very constant in the

kind of devotions you promote and talk about and engage in. And the two of

you seem very devoted to our lady. It's a big compliment. I love Jason Evers. Dear friend.

And the thought came to me that you have to maintain the charism of the founder. He's not

my founder in any way, shape, or form. But he was influential in my life when I was in college.

Was he? One with the chastity stuff. But what stood out to me the most from him was he was giving a talk to teens,

and he told them, my spiritual director, his spiritual director, told him that to do a talk

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