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The Politics Guys

Democrats Win, Government Shutdown, Senate Filibuster, Nancy Pelosi

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Politics

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 8 November 2025

⏱️ 61 minutes

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Summary

Trey and Justin open the show by bypassing the shutdown, at least for a moment, and starting with the 2025 elections. Trey argues that the results are a victory for Democrats, but must be contextualized. His key point is that the economy is becoming an issue for Republicans. Both hosts outline what off-year elections such as this can and don’t mean more generally and how the Democratic Party still faces structural issues facing the midterms. Next, the guys turn to the issue of the government shutdown, which is now the longest in history. Trey asks Justin where he sits on the length and duration of the shutdown. Justin believes Democrats to be in a relatively strong position, but Trey counters that the Democrats lose even if they win. Trey especially argues that the data is not as clear for a Democratic mandate. The guys close the show by discussing the likelihood of ending the Senate’s filibuster (zero) and the legacy of Nancy Pelosi as she announces she will not run for reelection. Check out Trey's New Substack The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support atpatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Atheist, agnostics, long-haired winners, short-haired winners, Van Rolega. Welcome to the politics, guys. a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

1:18.3

I'm Trey Warnedorf, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University, and I am joined again by Justin Holmes, a professor of political science at Northern Iowa. Justin,

1:30.7

how it be it. It's good to be here. It's been a week, but I look forward to doing this.

1:35.6

Like, this is so much more interesting than so many other things I've had to do this week.

1:39.7

You know, just for listeners edification, you know, we both kind of had a week. And I was thinking about

1:44.0

we kind of match for those of you who are watching. And we really need to coordinate these things better. Yeah, I mean, who would have thought? Yeah, this is the time of the year where students come in, the problems are happening. And some of them are like real and they're tough. And they just take, I think it's really hard for people who don't work in education to recognize how much emotional energy it can sometimes take. You know, you got students with some food insecurity or other things going on. You know, get all kind of things happening. We're doing registration right now. And so I've got, like, advising, which we just got done with that.

2:18.3

It's the most stressful thing that I do, because, like, if I screw up there, like, you can cost people money, and that's just no good.

2:23.9

Absolutely. And these are, and these are your students. You don't want to do that.

2:26.6

Yeah, exactly. It's hard. So, so I'm excited to be here talking to you because I always enjoy this, and it's so much better than this.

2:33.9

Me too. to be here talking to you because I always enjoy this and it's so much better than this is going to

2:34.2

say it's so much better than advising and well and here's the thing for listeners you guys are

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