That does it for me tonight. The last word starts right now with Ali Velci, who's in for Lawrence.

Hey, Ali.

Great question and a great answer. It occurs to me. I was just thinking it through as I was listening to Greg Kassar.

I guess my litmus test today is democracy, right? We can worry about the specifics of health care and minimum wage and all those kinds of things.

Once we all agree that we're playing within the lines and the box of democracy, that seems to be the fight. You can be left,

right, progressive, moderate, as long as you're in that sandbox. Yeah, I think his point is a

really interesting one. And it's a version of Mamdani even. You don't have to agree on 100% of things. The question is, do you have a governing force who's going to defend the fundamentals of what we believe in? And it's one of the interesting and important debates that's happening in the party right now. And in some cases, we've got a few weeks for a lot of people to come to terms with that. Jen, great to see you. It was great to see this weekend, by the way, in person. You too. Excellent show. I'll see you tomorrow night. See you tomorrow night. All right. How worried are the Republicans this week? They're pretty worried, not just because the government shutdown is now in its third week, not just because of the public outcry from

military families and air traffic controllers and others who are worried about not being able to pay

their bills, but because on Saturday, the No King's protests are back.

I encourage you to watch. We call it the Hate America Rally that will happen Saturday.

Let's see who shows up for that. I bet you see hamas supporters i bet you see antifa types i bet you see the marxist in full

display we shouldn't have to wait until the hate america rally this weekend or whatever it is

that's driving chuck schumer to keep this going on continue this shutdown shutdown for what? For a hate America rally that's

taking place on the mall on Saturday, Maria? Okay, so first the No King's protest that's taking

place to Saturday was announced nearly a month before the Republican-controlled House and the

who's controlling the Senate? The Republican-controlled Senate let the government funding run out.

These rallies aren't what's driving Democrats to, quote, keep this going on, as Steve Scalise puts it.

Republicans are refusing to negotiate with Democrats to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits

that help millions of people afford their health insurance.

More on that a little bit later.

Here's House Democratic leader Hakeem Jeffries today.

It's time to extend the Affordable Care Act tax credits.

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