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Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

Democrats Run Away from the Alamo

Case in Point: The Legal Show on the Hottest Legal Cases in Politics and Culture

The Heritage Foundation

Government

4.5527 Ratings

🗓️ 14 August 2025

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

Hans von Spakovsky and his Heritage colleague, Cully Stimson, switch rolls, with Cully hosting the show and Hans answering questions about the ongoing redistricting battle in the Lone Star State.

 

Classic movie review of “The Alamo,” the 1960 film directed, produced, funded, and starred in by John Wayne.

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0:00.0

Right is still right, even if you stand by yourself.

0:04.8

Mr. Chief Justice, may it place the court.

0:08.2

Welcome to Case and Point. I'm Cully Stimson, and I am guest hosting the show today,

0:13.6

which is titled Democrats Run Away from the Alamo.

0:18.0

That Lone Star State has been much in the news over the past few weeks as Democrat state legislators have run out the back door of the state capital and fled the state.

0:27.7

They are trying to avoid the Texas House and Senate having a quorum in their special session called by Governor Greg Abbott to block a vote on a new congressional redistricting plan.

0:39.0

The absconding legislators have fled to politically friendly blue states like Illinois, Massachusetts, and California.

0:46.8

Civil warrants have been issued for their arrest.

0:49.3

The governor has directed the famous Texas Rangers to go after them,

0:53.6

and Texas has also asked the FBI to help

0:56.6

locate the fleeing legislators. Now, your usual host, Hans von Spakovsky, is actually my guest

1:04.2

today to help explain exactly what's going on in Texas with this mid-decade redistricting

1:09.6

due to Hans's expertise on voting issues. Hans, of course,

1:14.6

is a senior legal fellow at Heritage and the manager of our election law reform initiative.

1:20.4

Relevant to today's topic, however, is that he spent several years in the U.S. Department

1:25.6

of Justice as counsel to the Assistant Attorney General

1:28.9

for Civil Rights, where he was responsible for coordinating DOJ's enforcement of federal voting

1:34.8

rights laws, including monitoring state redistricting efforts. So I can't think of a better person

1:40.1

to do this. Hans kindly let me host his show. So Hans, walk us through what's actually going

1:49.5

on in Texas. And why is the state legislature engaging in redistricting in the middle of the decade?

1:57.2

Is this unusual? Well, it is unusual, but there's no law that prevents the state from doing that.

2:03.6

It's just most states, you know, redistricting is always such a hot political fight that most of them are

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