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Democrats grill Trump officials on why they used a commercial app to discuss war plans

PBS News Hour - Segments

PBS NewsHour

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4.11K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2025

⏱️ 6 minutes

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Summary

A typically ordinary Senate hearing on threats to the U.S. became contentious following news of a major national security breach. Jeffrey Goldberg, the editor-in-chief of The Atlantic, revealed Monday that he was accidentally put into a chat on Signal with top officials as they discussed military strikes in Yemen. Two of those officials testified in the Senate hearing. Lisa Desjardins reports. PBS News is supported by - https://www.pbs.org/newshour/about/funders

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0:00.0

Welcome to the News Hour. A typically ordinary Senate hearing on worldwide threats to the U.S.

0:05.6

became contentious today following news of a major national security breach.

0:10.9

The editor-in-chief of the Atlantic revealed yesterday that he was accidentally put into a chat on the signal messaging app with top U.S.

0:17.9

officials as they discussed military strikes in Yemen.

0:21.9

Two of those officials testified in the Senate hearing today.

0:25.2

Our congressional correspondent, Lisa Desjardin, has our report.

0:29.1

I can just say this. If this was the case of a military officer or an intelligence officer,

0:40.1

and they had this kind of behavior, they would be fired.

0:43.9

Democrats on the Senate Intelligence Committee today hammered CIA Director John Ratcliffe

0:48.7

and Director of National Intelligence Tulsi Gabbard over the signal chat security breach.

0:54.6

Director Radcliffe, were you on the group chat?

0:58.6

Senator, I was on a signal messaging group.

1:03.0

So you were the John Ratcliffe on that chat?

1:04.9

I was.

1:05.5

Thank you. Thank you.

1:06.6

Throughout the heated hearing, Ratcliffe and Gabbard stayed cool, confirming they do use the encrypted app for work purposes

1:13.3

and stating it's allowed for high-level use.

1:16.4

Initially, both denied the chat contained classified information.

1:20.2

To be clear, I haven't participated in any signal group messaging

1:25.1

that relates to any classified information at all.

1:29.8

Okay.

1:30.9

Director Gabry?

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