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The NPR Politics Podcast

Democrats Divided Over Israel

The NPR Politics Podcast

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4.425.7K Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2023

⏱️ 18 minutes

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Summary

President Biden has offered strong support for Israel in its war against Hamas, even traveling to the country to show the United States' commitment to Israel's defense. But that stance has some Democrats sharply critical of the Biden administration for not focusing enough on the war's impacts on Palestinians — something that might be a problem as the president campaigns for reelection.

This episode: voting correspondent Ashley Lopez, political correspondent Danielle Kurtzleben, and White House correspondent Franco Ordoñez.

The podcast is edited by Casey Morell. It is produced by Elena Moore and Jeongyoon Han. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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12.05 pm central time on Wednesday, November 1st, 2023.

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Here's the show.

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Maybe it's because like I'm from the Caribbean. Yeah. Yeah. Hey there, it's the NPR Politics podcast. I'm Ashley Lopez, I cover voting.

1:02.0

I'm Frank Ordonia as I cover the White House. And I'm Danielle Kurt Slavin, I cover politics.

1:07.0

The war between Israel and Hamas is dividing public opinion.

1:11.0

And for Democrats in particular, the debate between army Israel and providing for its defense versus supporting Palestinians caught in the crossfire is causing some division.

1:23.0

Danielle, I wonder if you could start off with telling us what's causing Democrats in particular to split here.

1:29.0

Right. So yes, what you're seeing is some disagreement among Democrats about how to respond to this.

1:35.0

For example, you have a lot of people on the sort of progressive end of the Democratic Party largely calling for a ceasefire in the conflict right now versus

1:48.0

you have some older people and some more moderate people in the party who much more strongly support Israel and want the US to as it has for quite a while continue to quite strongly support Israel.

1:58.0

So the splits here are quite a bit about generational splits, it also ideological splits. And there are a lot of reasons for that that we can get into in a bit here.

2:08.0

But also there is one other thing to really look at. And that's also political divisions between Israel and the US.

2:15.0

For example, Israel has been led largely by conservatives for the past few decades and for US observers who are particularly attuned to that conflict and to the politics of Israel.

2:29.0

The right leaning nature of Israel, especially Benjamin Netanyahu might be pushing them in a more sympathetic direction towards Palestinians.

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