We're going to get two perspectives now on all of this.

First from Democratic Congressman Glenn Ivy.

Welcome to the NewsHour.

Thanks for being with us.

Thanks for having me.

Your Maryland district has one of the highest concentrations of federal workers in the country.

What are you hearing from your constituents who will find themselves furloughed or potentially fired if the OMB director makes good on his threat

of mass firings in the event of a shutdown.

Well, I've been hearing from my constituents for about eight or nine months now because the

Trump administration has been firing them as fast as they possibly can. The only thing that

seems to have slowed it down was court cases and injunctions that had been put in place.

So I think there's a recognition.

I think tens of thousands have been fired already.

And so I think they recognize that the apparent promise or offer for Trump to slow that down is probably worth the paper it's written on.

So they know that they're going to try and continue with the mass terminations,

no matter the fact that it's hurting the people here in the United States and across the country.

So they understand that they really can't rely on what the Trump administration saying to him.

Democrats are making health care a sticking point in the shutdown debate, calling for a

permanent extension of the enhanced ACA subsidies that passed under former President Biden back in

2021. Why is that the line that Democrats are drawing right now?

Well, in part because the Republicans dug such a deep hole with respect to health care covers for the American people.

So in HR1, $1 trillion in cuts to Medicaid, I think, is going to be devastating to not just people across the country who are like the elderly and the disabled,

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