Welcome to Current Affairs. My name is Nathan Robinson. I am the editor-in-chief of Current Affairs magazine. I am joined today by the legendary political cartoonist, Ted Rl. He is a former Pulitzer Prize finalist,

former president of the Association of American Editorial Cartoonists, one of the most prolific

cartoonists on the left, and author of a number of books, including the new book, What's Left?

And here we go, which was just published yesterday.

Yeah.

And also a contributor, this is the part of your resume, I never understand.

A regular contributor to the Wall Street Journal somehow.

Yeah. Yeah.

And you're a resident leftist on the op-ed page, the very conservative op-ed page.

How did they let you in?

This is what I've always every time, because I take the Wall Street Journal, I read it every

morning, I open the op-ed page so that I can get angry at something to fire me up for the day. This is my morning ritual.

And then suddenly I see your name pop up from time to time. It's very strange.

Well, you know, it's like all things related to publishing, it's personal relationship with the editor.

I met the editor. Kind of my editor and I feuded online.

It got really ugly, and at one point we ran into each other in public, and we just

hit it off, we went out browsing and drinking, and we hate each other's politics, we

became friends, and so he. You know, we hate each other's politics. We became friends.

And so he, you know, he's willing to take my stuff now.

You are, I have to say, a breath of fresh air on the Wall Street Journal op-ed page

whenever you do pop up in there.

Thank you.

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