Democratic salami and boiling frogs
The Europeans | European news, politics and culture
Katy Lee and Dominic Kraemer
4.8 • 162 Ratings
🗓️ 9 January 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Double Dutch on Instagram and TikTok
Ada Colau's amazing Instagram post Producers: Katy Lee and Wojciech Oleksiak Mixing and mastering: Wojciech Oleksiak Music: Jim Barne and Mariska Martina 00:23 The headwinds of 202502:48 Bad Week: Fireworks
11:50 Good Week: Greenland's pro-independence movement
22:31 Interview: Tom Theuns on protecting Europe's democracies
38:01 The Inspiration Station: 'My Favourite Cake' and 'La Chimera'
43:13 Happy Ending: Ada Colau's amazing Instagram post Bluesky | Instagram | Mastodon | hello@europeanspodcast.com
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome back to the Europeans, the podcast about the large and ever more complicated continent that we call home. |
| 0:30.2 | It's messy, but we like it here. |
| 0:32.2 | This is Katie in Paris, where 2025 has got off to a very windy start. |
| 0:36.9 | And as always, on the other end of the internet in Amsterdam, it's my friend Dominic Kramer. |
| 0:41.2 | Hi, Dominic. |
| 0:41.9 | Hi, Katie. It's windy here too. I feel a bit shoved around by 2025 so far, to be honest. |
| 0:47.0 | Oh, what a metaphor. Isn't that just the Netherlands, though? Windy all the time. |
| 0:50.9 | All right, yes. |
| 0:52.2 | There's that competition isn't there on that island for cycling into the wind or something. |
| 0:57.0 | It's true. |
| 0:58.0 | There is. |
| 0:59.0 | It is famously windy and flat. |
| 1:01.0 | But happy New Year, Katie. |
| 1:03.0 | Happy New Year. |
| 1:04.0 | Did you have a good break? |
| 1:05.0 | Yeah, I did. |
| 1:06.0 | I had a great Christmas, although it feels like quite a long time ago now. |
| 1:10.0 | But yeah, I love Christmas. I know. |
| 1:11.9 | That's kind of not popular to say. Basic. But I find it just great. I also just love stopping |
| 1:18.0 | working for a bit. That is nice. I'm glad you got to do that because it's not very often that |
| 1:22.4 | you do. No, it's true. I deliberately made it happen this year and I'm glad I didn't. And I feel healthy. It's the beginning of January and I'm well and I think you are almost well as well, which never happens. |
| 1:32.1 | I am enjoying this two-day window of feeling relatively healthy where my nose is working properly. |
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