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Hi, I'm Alyssa Molano and this is Sorry Not Sorry.

Today's episode is a treat.

We've invited David Lit, one of President Obama's speech writers on to the show.

He is very funny and I'd be lying if it wasn't a bittersweet interview remembering when

we had a president who actually had a sense of humor and also was able to complete a sentence.

David's got a new book out to democracy in one book or less and I think you'll find

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