Democracy in Chains: The Nancy MacLean Interview - Part II
Gaslit Nation
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🗓️ 8 June 2022
⏱️ 50 minutes
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This is Part II of our interview. In this two-part interview, we take a deep dive into a right-wing hellhole with acclaimed scholar Nancy MacLean, the author of the bestseller Democracy in Chains, which discusses how anti-democratic networks run by powerful plutocrats came to hold the United States hostage. MacLean discusses the Koch dark money network and its shadowy political partners, the decades-long libertarian takeover of the Republican Party by far-right mercenaries, the infrastructure of this extremist network and how it has sustained itself for so long, the rise of the neo-confederacy, and the dystopian plans billionaires have for the American future. We also get MacLean's opinions on recent crises like the pandemic, the Trump Crime Cult's Capitol attack, and the assault on voting rights. And of course we ask her how we best battle these insidious adversaries, break America's Koch addiction, and get our country back!
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| 1:41.2 | So regarding the 2022 election and, you know, the perils we will face if the GOP retakes the House, for example, or takes a House in the Senate, you know, one of the things people are struggling with is how Democrats could even win this election when the assault on voting rights has been so successful, you know, where we have |
| 2:01.7 | the laws that were created after the partial repeal of the VRA in 2013, followed by new laws, |
| 2:07.0 | followed by laws like in Georgia that just allow state legislatures to throw out the vote, |
| 2:12.0 | which seems to be the response to the unexpected 2020 win in Georgia. How do we prevent this from happening? |
| 2:18.3 | And in your opinion, has the Biden administration |
| 2:21.3 | and the Democratic Party put up a sufficient fight |
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