Johnny Harris, we're gonna spend the week talking about the fact that you outfitted your whole family with quip

Electritude brushes at get quip.com slash explain. Oh, who should we start with?

I mean, I think the the person we should start with is my wife Isabel or Izzy as we call her around here.

She was kind of the impetus this whole thing. I got back from Hong Kong all jet lagged and I was like in passing

I was like unpacking I was like oh I lost my quip. I should just order another one and she goes

No, you're not gonna order another one like you're not just gonna

indulge in your quip addiction without getting the rest of us equip as well. And you did I did

Were used to hearing about democracies becoming autocracies, but it usually involves a military overthrow

Maybe an assassination a citizen uprising, but what about when it happens slowly over time that process is called democratic backsliding

Zach Beecham has been reporting on democratic backsliding for Vox and he just got back from Hungary, which is sort of ground zero for the process

And Hungary you really need to go back to right at the run the end of the Cold War

Hungary was obviously a communist country and

It's current leader Victor Orban that's prime minister who was duly elected

Was back then a youth activist in the anti-communist movement

You got famous for giving a really rousing speech actually at anniversary of the 1956 uprising against communism by Hungarians

and

Orban built up this big reputation as you know one of the important political players all before he was 30 years old

His movement which initially started out as the kind of middle the road liberal thing

shifted to the right and he began to exert

profound amounts of control over the way that the party operate

Victor Orban was our life and that's cost in Fides for decades, you know in Budapest

I talked with the Hungarian legislator her name is Susana Selenje she was in Fides, which is the name of Orban's party

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