Democracy advocate examines how Trump is changing the U.S. government
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🗓️ 6 February 2025
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| 0:00.0 | The first two weeks alone of the Trump administration have brought dramatic proposals and some unprecedented changes in our systems of government. |
| 0:08.1 | Tonight, we begin a new series of interviews called On Democracy, taking a step back to look at big questions around our laws, institutions, and norms, and how they're changing. |
| 0:17.9 | We begin with Barton Gellman, a longtime journalist and senior advisor |
| 0:22.5 | at the Brennan Center for Justice. It's a nonpartisan think tank at New York University's School of |
| 0:27.5 | Law. Bart, welcome back to the News Hour. Thanks for being with us. Thank you. |
| 0:32.1 | Bart, I want to begin with these tabletop exercises you and your colleagues ran last May and June, |
| 0:36.9 | role-playing both a Democratic |
| 0:38.5 | and Republican potential presidency. On the Republican side, you looked at what would happen |
| 0:43.1 | if Donald Trump came into office and made good on a lot of the public promises and pledges |
| 0:48.2 | he made, how the system of checks and balances would work. So how does what you've seen over the last |
| 0:53.6 | two weeks plus line up with what you saw back |
| 0:56.2 | in those exercises? |
| 0:57.2 | So we did five different tabletop exercises. |
| 1:00.8 | Two of them were called Everything Everywhere all at once. |
| 1:04.0 | And those are the ones that Trump is going through with in which he is launching attacks |
| 1:09.3 | on multiple fronts all over the federal government against |
| 1:12.9 | the government itself. |
| 1:14.6 | And he is doing so baldly in defiance of the law and in some cases the Constitution. |
| 1:21.8 | He is firing people. |
| 1:24.2 | He doesn't have the power to fire. |
| 1:26.7 | Or he's firing people without giving them hearings |
| 1:29.3 | or reasons that are required by law. He tried to stop three trillion dollars of payments that Congress |
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