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🗓️ 15 April 2022
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0:00.0 | Hey, deserving listeners. Today I'm going to interview Victoria Shepard, who is a documentary |
0:05.3 | maker and writer in the UK. And I'm going to talk with her about her new book, which is |
0:11.6 | about delusions, which I thought would be an interesting interview. So let's go to that. |
0:16.8 | Hello, I'm Victoria Shepard, and I'm the author of a history of delusions. |
0:22.1 | Subtitled, The Glass King, a substitute husband and a war king corpse. |
0:27.2 | The Glass King, a substitute husband and a walking corpse. So why did you name? Why did you have the |
0:33.6 | subtitle that? So it's a social history. I've put together 10 individuals from over 600 years. |
0:40.8 | It's the very first delusion case that grabbed me was the Glass King. I was a radio documentary |
0:45.9 | maker. I was actually doing something completely different, researching something completely |
0:49.7 | different. I came across this case, which just has obsessed me ever since. It was the starting point |
0:55.2 | for the whole thing. Charles VI of Scotland, at the end of the 14th century, who believed, |
1:01.5 | came to believe. He was dealing with the 100 years wars. He was in a, he was in a bad time |
1:07.2 | with his wars with England. But the real problem that he was facing was that he thought he had |
1:12.0 | turned into glass, literally turned into glass, which was a relatively new material at the time. |
1:17.7 | There'd been glass before, but plate glass, which was now coming into people's homes and people |
1:22.7 | were kind of, it was in the domestic space, was, was relatively new. And he would, the dot, |
1:28.3 | you know, various chronicles of his life, talk about how he walked around wrapped in doves and |
1:32.6 | blankets to soften self-smashing. And I also, that's a leapt out of this, this very, very, very |
1:38.4 | esoteric academic paper that I was looking at, connected to something completely different. And |
1:42.8 | I thought, what? The King of France, but it was made of glass. And it became known, turned out, |
1:48.9 | other people sort of caught it, metaphorically speaking. And he wasn't the only one to relate |
1:53.9 | to this new material and to kind of melt themselves into it and to believe that they turned into, |
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